Mar. 4th, 2009

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To reiterate, here’s the email I sent:

From: Petter Häggholm
To: labs@mozilla.com
Subject: Mozilla Weave TOS

From http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/weave/tos/:

"2.2. [...] By submitting, posting or displaying the User Content you give Mozilla a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to store, transmit, reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute User Content for the sole purpose of providing the Services to you. “User Content” means digital content provided by you that is stored on, manipulated and/or transmitted to or from Mozilla's servers by means of your use of the Service (including but not limited to bookmarks, preferences, passwords)."

I'll sign up with a throwaway password, and I don't particularly care about the privacy of my bookmarks in and of themselves (they are not sensitive information), but why, exactly, do you reserve the right to "publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute" my passwords? Either I misread your legalese, in which case I'd appreciate a clarification, or this seems a very peculiar right! I would very much like my passwords *not* to be publicly displayed and distributed, let alone performed.

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Petter Häggholm
http://petterhaggholm.net
“The plural of ‘anecdote’ is ‘anecdotes’, not ‘data’.”

…To which, the next day, I received the following reply:

Hi Petter,

We are still working on the language of the terms of service, thanks for bringing up this point as it should be much clearer and probably also narrower in scope.

The intent is of course not to give out your passwords. When we wrote the current terms we were trying to think through the various sharing and service integration scenarios that in fact do require some of those rights, but "...for the sole purpose of providing the Services to you."

All of the user data uploaded to Weave is encrypted at the client, by the way. So we do not actually have access to your passwords (or bookmarks, history, etc). Your passphrase is required to unlock the data.

Dan

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