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1. Nihilism

There are no values. Everything is meaningless.

Dismissal: If that’s true, then it is ipso facto pointless to believe in it.

2. Relativism

There are no absolute values. Any set of values is equally valid in its own context.

Dismissal: Including, presumably, my set of values—viz., that it is important to apply universal standards.

3. Derrida-esque post-structuralism? post-modernism? deconstructionism? drug-induced dementia?

There is no absolute truth. Even the words true and false stem from misapprehensions of the world.

Dismissal: Clearly, that cannot be true. If you even assert that it is true, you are contradicting yourself. (I have seen someone attempt to defend this with a straight face; I do not understand how.)

Date: 2010-08-24 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dillen-dagen.livejournal.com
Isn't relativism generally addenumed by a type to describe it?

"Cultural relativism"

etc ?

It obviously doesn't work as a background colour, but as a line in a painting it's a bit more accurate.

Date: 2010-08-24 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petter-haggholm.livejournal.com
Yes, but if I attempt to delve into nuance and detail it loses its casual, offhand nature… But, too, the hypothetical quote describing what the term refers to is intended to help define what I mean by the term, and the form of relativism described above is a form of relativism I have (unfortunately) encountered. If you have a view that uses the name “relativism” but simply does not fit the description above, then that’s just not what I was talking about.

(Though on a side note—this pertains to the Derrida person and sort of person I have in mind much more than anything “relativism” related—there seems to exist a tendency to embellish a subject with a lot of complexity that does not actually ameliorate the core problem. Sometimes, the emperor is naked (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/12/the_courtiers_reply.php).)

Date: 2010-08-24 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wished4this.livejournal.com
If this was facebook, I would "like" this.

Date: 2010-08-24 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheepykins.livejournal.com
It disturbs me how often I've come to think this.

Date: 2010-08-24 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petter-haggholm.livejournal.com
You can; I make Facebook import all my public LJ posts. This one is here (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?filter=lf#!/notes/petter-haggholm/offhand-dismissal-of-self-refuting-philosophies/431089269215). :P

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